can we just get rid of the debt ceiling? it's a real brawl. >> just deep six that sucker like no other country deals with this it ottic device. hey, i'm going to borrow some money, but i'll think twice over whether i'm going to pay the bill when it comes. >> what if it was the founding father himself who said i think we ought to have a debt ceiling so as to avoid fiscal recklessness? >> well, in fact, the debt ceiling, the reason we have one is because up until 100 years ago, we voted on every bond issue individually. so you think it's bad now, just imagine if we had had that situation. but looking forward, though, this is very much yesterday's story. it was interesting that the reason the dow took this latest jump upwards was because the house a couple of weeks ago signaled they weren't going to have a fight over the debt ceiling. now, people need to focus on the fact that the next big tripwire is the sequester. i think markets got a little bit complacent the one second. >> we want to talk about the federal reserve, as well